The Book

Updated by John – 4/7/2011

It’s been a while since we’ve updated this section of the site, so let’s bring you up to date. Since the publication of John Dies at the End, quite a bit has happened. The sales went nuts and sold about ten times more than we ever expected. Don Coscarelli has wrapped up the filming of the movie and is currently working on the visual effects. And Dave has signed the deal to write the second novel.

Back in November of 2010, Dave announced the following on the forums:

A deal has been done for the sequel to John Dies at the End, tentatively titled THIS BOOK IS FULL OF SPIDERS: Seriously Dude, Don’t Touch It with St. Martin’s Press and Thomas Dunne Books.

I am writing it, and as of Thanksgiving 2010 I am on about page 125 of what will probably be a 300 page book unless I completely change my mind.

That means it will be done next year some time, unless disaster strikes. I do not know when it would be published. All answers to any questions about when you can actually read it will be nonsense since the book does not yet fully exist yet. I have to wait for certain ideas to occur to me before I can write them and they occur at their own pace. This is why some writers can crank out a book every three months, where others write one every ten years.

Work time is also a factor, my job at Cracked eats up between 70 and 80 hours a week depending on the week, so you can imagine that it doesn’t leave much time for side projects. But, we have signed a deal and the publisher has advanced me money and that means it’s going to get written.

Some of you will remember that he had a version of that story featured right here on this site for free, entitled John and Dave and the Temple of X’al’naa”thuthuthu However, when he signed the contract for the sequel to be written, that had to come down. When asked if the second book would be that story, Dave gave this answer:

The parasitic insect-like creatures featured in that story (the ones that embedded themselves in people’s heads and took over their brains) are the “spiders” referenced in the title. This book will be an extension and expansion of that story. But for instance Detective Vance Falconer returns. But about 2/3 of the way through the story you know, this one veers off in a different direction.

But because that story is incorporated in the new book I of course do not have the rights to post that story online, since the publisher is paying me to put that into a paper book that they can sell so their employees can buy food. So there’s no point asking me to re-post it on the internet or to post here asking where it can be found. I don’t like being a nazi about that sort of thing and in fact that story was posted openly, on the internet, for free, for more than four years. But now that they have paid me money for the rights it would be an incredible dick move to not do my best to protect their copyright on it. And that story is no longer “canon” anyway.

As of this post (April 7, 2011), Dave is most of the way through the first draft, with ‎93,839 words. However, don’t get all excited just yet. The first draft means that he’s got a rough cut. He’ll end up having to rewrite on that for quite some time, as well as send it through a lengthy editing process. But it does mean that the second story does now physically exist in the form of a book in his living room, minus the ending. It’s now just a matter of getting the time to wrap it up, start the refinement, and finding the time to devote to making the second book something you’ll love as much as the first one. He’s not going to just crap something out for the sake of making good time – what would be the point?

But it’s coming. Until then, you’re in the right place if you’re looking for news on the book or the movie or anything else to do with the JDatE universe. The second we know something that we can pass along, we do so on this website, Facebook, and Twitter. You can also keep up to date with our Google Group or our RSS feed.

From Dave – September 17, 2009


It’s a drug that promises an out-of-body experience with each hit. On the street they call it Soy Sauce, and users can drift across time and dimensions. But some who come back are no longer human.

Suddenly a silent, otherworldly invasion is underway, and mankind needs a hero. What it gets instead is John and David, a pair of college dropouts who can barely hold down jobs.

Can these two stop the oncoming horror in time to save humanity?

No. No, they can’t.


Here’s some background on the magical and mostly retarded tale of how this book came to be:

Around the turn of the century, while working in a cubicle at an insurance company I, David Wong, wrote a “fictional” story about my brush with the supernatural and posted it on the web.

Over the years word of mouth buzz drew in more than 70,000 readers.

Indie horror publisher Permuted Press put the tale into print…

… selling copies on Amazon and on the shelves of some Borders book stores.

Then Phantasm and Bubba Ho-Tep director/producer Don Coscarelli came calling and bought the film rights. Again, while I was still sitting in a small town, in a cubicle, typing up insurance claims for many hours a day.

Through sheer word of mouth, the Permuted print run was quickly sucked off the shelves by unsuspecting readers. Then megapublisher St. Martin’s Press came along–they’re the ones who own this building…

…and arranged to do a massive worldwide re-issue of the book in hardcover, in September of 2009.

In the mean time, I was hired as the Editor of, the humor site anyone can write for, that’s now doing about 80 million pageviews a month because hundreds of awesome people write there and I get to ride their coattails. They’ll figure it out eventually and I’ll be back in the cubicle in a year or so. So obviously it’s important that you buy a copy of the book so I can take the cash and run to Mexico before the world catches on.

Here’s all the stuff I’ve written elsewhere.